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    howdy folks - i've been out and about this morning, and checked in on my powerful owls. took some photos that i'm quite happy with, but i'm buggered if i can get rid of the red-eye on them! the red-eye tool in PS doesn't work, i've done some layers and tooled around with it, but can't get it looking "natural" enough.

    can anyone give me some tips as to what they do to de-redeye their birds? I took other shots without flash, but it was pretty dark/cloudy and when the subject is 20 odd meters up in the canopy, it needed the flash to bring out the feather details.

    here's the shot in question without any processing at all on it.

    Thanks muchly for any advice!
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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Troy, i did this in about 10 minutes on PSE. I am sure that there are easier or better ways to fix the eys than this, but I did it by:
    1) Selected the left red eye using the circle selection tool.
    2) Converted to Greyscale
    3) Adjusted Contrast/brightness (not curves, just Enhance>Adjust Lighting>Adjust Contrast/Brightness), mostly decrease brightness, increase contrast, til it looked about right.
    4) Repeat on other eye.

    [attachment=0:3ilb6s7s]BOz Owl Edit.jpg[/attachment:3ilb6s7s]

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    nice work Ashwin. when you're old enough, I owe you a beer.

    I'd played with the brightness/contrast and got it looking pretty good - the circle selection tool is the winner. i was using the wizard/wand thing and it wasn't looking good enough. I was out an about last night, so i'll blame it on not being entirely awake. haha. I didn't bother grey-scaling it though... if you've only selected the red portion, it should be ok to just tool around with the b/c, surely?
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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Troy, you can do it on one adjustment layer, just select both eyes with the magic wand and be sure to get all the red right out to the very rim and include the catchlight and expand it by a couple of pixels.

    Next open a selective colour layer with the selection active. In reds, add cyan and black, it'll go dark murky red. Then go to neutrals and add cyan till it looks neutral, then add black to taste.

    Always best to do stuff like that on layers as you can go back and fine tune later if you change you mind or delete the layer and start again if you stuff up.
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    cheers Chris.

    did i meet you at the lewin's pond and then at maroubra a week(ish?) later?
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    not me I'm afraid, haven't been to Maroubra or thereabouts for years, you're more likely to find me in The Royal.
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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Thanks fellas for these tips. I've got PSE 7 and everytime I use the red-eye tool the eyes just end up grey. Hope you don't mind but I've downloaded your Red-eyed owl and I'm going to have a go at using the method you describe in this thread.

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Hi Ashy

    As you also use PSE I used your example. However, when converting to greyscale, EVERYTHING turns grey.

    This is what I did

    1. Open the photo
    2. CJ to duplicate the photo
    3. Using the magic wand I selected all the red part of the left eye then holding the Shift Key, selected all the red of the right eye
    4. You then say to convert to greyscale ... this didn't work.

    So I .. saved my selection to a new layer
    then followed the rest of your comments.

    I'm using PSE 7 - so how did you convert just the selected eyes to grey scale ?
    Jude

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    No worries Jude.

    To stop the whole thing going grey, select the eye, and then right click and create new layer by copy (i'm using CS4 though - so this might be different in PSE). repeat that. I didn't convert to grey on the finished product - just reduced the brightness as described above.

    i'll send you the images as promised later on.
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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Jude,
    Maybe PSE 5.0, which I have, works differently. When I have selected something, anything I edit will only affect the selected area, so I can shapern, soften, convert to B&W, or whatever, on the selection, and nothing else.

    You have described what I did, so it must be that version 7 is different in this.

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy Drongo
    Jude,
    Maybe PSE 5.0, which I have, works differently. When I have selected something, anything I edit will only affect the selected area, so I can shapern, soften, convert to B&W, or whatever, on the selection, and nothing else.

    You have described what I did, so it must be that version 7 is different in this.

    Ashwin

    No, PSE7 wont let me.
    I can make my selection - then right click and select new layer via copy
    But as soon as I select Mode - Greyscale - I'm faced with
    "Changing modes can effect the appearance of layers. Merge layers before mode change?"

    If I say 'dont merge' then I'm just left with a coloured eye layer
    If I say 'merge' then all layers turn greyscale.

    Never mind - I find I can just skip this part and go straight into brightness/contrast so all's well.

    Jude

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Another way is to select the eyes and the use the hue/saturation adjustment. Just totally desaturate using the saturation slider and then use the lightness slider to darken to black. If they still are not dark enough just use selective colour adjustment to add black to your selection.

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    Quote Originally Posted by wingsonwire
    Another way is to select the eyes and the use the hue/saturation adjustment. Just totally desaturate using the saturation slider and then use the lightness slider to darken to black. If they still are not dark enough just use selective colour adjustment to add black to your selection.
    I think this works even better than brightness/contrast.

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    Default Re: best way to remove red-eye on an owl?

    I have a great book: Photoshop for dummies, and it's fantastic at things like this. The technique described here I tried and it worked a treat. Trust me. if I can do it you will have no trouble.
    1. Zoom in, select the elliptical marquee tool and drag from centre out of the eye, don't be too woried if you're not exact.
    2. Choose select>transform selection. This allows you to fine tune the selection.
    3. Press enter to accept the transformation
    4. Choose select>Feather and type .5 in the dialog box. This softens the edge giving better transition.
    5.Press "D" on keyboard for default colours
    6. Select brush tool and a reasonable sized brush
    7. Select colour from the mode pop up menu on the options bar. This is great because it allow colour to be applied while retaining texture, shadows and highlights etc from the orogonal image.
    8. Just paint inside the selection and watch the red eye disappear. - Cool huh!

    Unfortunately I'm unable to answer any technical questions if this doesn't work since I'm the dummy that owns the book, but it's full of cool procedures like this. Good luck.
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