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    Default How could I improve this?

    I have tried to separate the bird from the background as best I can but it still looks to me as though it could be done better. Can you suggest something please? I'm using Lightroom followed by CS5.

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    Tony, I hope I can be honest enough to say that to me it looks perfectly fine and normal as it is. The simple B&W coloring of the flycatcher provides all the contrast it needs against that smooth BG. If anything, select the BG only with a quick mask and apply some noise reduction to it. Then sharpen the bird a bit. Cheers mate.

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    Agree with Akos's suggestions. Here is a repost with blur tool used as NR on the BG, a slight levels adjustment and a tiny sharpen. Looks like its a fair crop and unfortunately the bird is not as sharp as it should be IMO. Nice settings though.

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    Yes, lovely setting in this image. Agree with above but I decided to compare the blur tool in Paul's repost to the NR filter in my repost. See which one you prefer.

    I thought that some areas of the blue on the bird were blocked up also tried to open up the area of white on the throat & breast. As I was working on a jpg I played around with a S/H adjustment. I don't know what processing you already did with this image but on the raw file I would try using fill light (maybe in combination with the blacks slider) in ACR to open up those areas rather than S/H.

    So basically I created the mask for the S/H adjustment, applied the S/H adjustments on a new layer.
    Created another layer for the NR filter, dragged the S/H mask to that layer, then inverted that mask, then applied the NR.
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    Sorry I forgot to reply to this earlier. They both look heaps better than my original but I think Geoff's has the more natural look of the two reposts. How do you do the "quick mask" with so much grass to exclude? That would be a nightmare for me with my skills but you two made it totally unnoticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Hansford View Post
    How do you do the "quick mask" with so much grass to exclude? That would be a nightmare for me with my skills but you two made it totally unnoticeable.
    I didn't use Quick Mask (in fact I rarely use it to create masks but others may prefer to use it, probably just personal choice). For the above image I just used the magic wand.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Gates View Post
    For the above image I just used the magic wand.
    On RGB or on a single channel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Hansford View Post
    On RGB or on a single channel?
    On RGB. But if you want a really exacting mask starting with channels is one of the best methods.
    Cheers,
    Geoff


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